In a recent episode of “Scroll Sessions” hosted by Dan Page, listeners had the privilege of gaining insights from Craig Beirdneau, a transformative coach who has journeyed from doubt to confidence. This blog post highlights the key aspects of the conversation, emphasizing Craig’s approach to overcoming self-limiting beliefs and empowering others.

Craig Beirdneau’s story begins with a significant personal and professional transformation triggered by being laid off at the end of 2020. This event, while challenging, catalyzed a period of deep reflection and ultimately led him to pursue a career in coaching. Craig’s passion for helping others is rooted in his own experiences of overcoming adversity and realizing the potential beyond his self-imposed limits.

During the podcast, Craig discussed the pivotal role that an executive coach played in his life, which opened his eyes to the power of coaching. He expressed how this experience revealed the immense growth potential that coaching could unlock, not just for him but for anyone willing to engage deeply with their personal and professional development.

A significant part of the discussion focused on the process Craig uses to engage with his clients. He starts by offering free consultations or coaching sessions, which helps to identify the core issues and goals of his clients. Craig emphasizes the importance of serving people and aligning their desires with actionable steps towards achievement. He uses various techniques to uncover deep-seated beliefs that often hold people back from realizing their true potential, such as writing down fears and challenging the validity of those limiting beliefs.

Craig also shared powerful personal anecdotes and client stories that illustrate the transformative impact of coaching. He talked about how coaching has not only helped him but also his clients, to navigate through periods of uncertainty and change, leading to significant personal growth and professional advancement.

One of the most compelling parts of the podcast was when Craig explained the importance of aligning one’s heart and mind. He discussed how people often pursue goals that they think are important, like career advancement or financial gain, without realizing that these might not actually align with their deeper values and sources of personal fulfillment. This misalignment can lead to dissatisfaction and burnout, despite achieving outward success.

In conclusion, Craig Beirdneau’s insights during the “Scroll Sessions” podcast underscore the transformative power of coaching in personal and professional contexts. By challenging and reshaping limiting beliefs, individuals can unlock their potential and achieve greater alignment with their true desires, leading to a more fulfilled and purpose-driven life. Craig’s story and his approach to coaching provide inspiration and practical guidance for anyone looking to make significant changes in their life or career.

Transcript

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0:09today we have the privilege of speaking with Craig berno who’s uh transcended his own self-limiting beliefs to empower

0:16others after being laid off at the end of 2020 Craig embarked on a journey from doubt to confidence evolving from a

0:22position where he’s now coaching employees and Executives to become a beacon for guidance for those seeking to

0:28uncover their true potential whether as a coach consultant or adviser Craig’s approach to personal development is both

0:34unique and inspiring Craig welcome to the show today appreciate it thanks so great so great to be here talk to me

0:42about more or less the Catalyst of change from where you were at to becoming a coach do you feel like the

0:49Catalyst was in 2020 or talk to me about that yeah uh I think I think I mean I

0:57just I’ve always loved people like when it comes down to it like people that that pushed me down into like the HR

1:03role helping businesses with you know managing their people making sure that they’re taking care of that kind of

1:10stuff engagement I was super focused on um you know went down the PHD route

1:16thinking that’s what I wanted to do and that was and pivoted back into Tech and then like the first experience that I

1:22got that I was like coaching okay what is this what’s this all about we brought an executive coach in to our leadership

1:28team and it was it was amazing like the amount of growth that we experienced that I personally we

1:34got individual coaching that I experienced in such a short amount of time it was awesome I and I knew I knew

1:41right then I was like okay this why has nobody told me about this you know like yeah uh this was it and I was like okay

1:47cool and then I decided uh right then and there that I was like uh I will do that one day when I’m successful right

1:54when I’m the CEO of a big company or you know have my $100 million exit or whatever it is is like yeah so I just

2:01limited myself right there in that thought like okay I really want to do this but I’m not cool enough yet to do it so I’ll kind of I’ll push it off and

2:08uh I think the cat yeah man getting laid off it hits you you know especially if

2:14you’re tying up who you are into your title right into your job into what

2:19you’re doing and so it pauses gives you a lot of pause gives you a lot of reflection a lot of it can be not

2:26awesome reflection cuz you’re like I am nothing now you know yeah uh and then

2:31you know needing to provide for my family I just started picking up doing what I knew how to do which was helping

2:37people with you know HR with recruiting and then it just yeah so I I started a few different

2:45businesses in there recruiting a recruiting agency that that did really fun was really really awesome and then

2:52one day my wife was just like was probably like a year and a half almost a year and a half ago she’s like hey like

2:59I told you to do this before uh I owe all my I owe All of My Success to her let’s be real you know she’s like I told

3:05you I told you like what what’s holding you back like why and uh and then it

3:10just I was reading this book I think it’s the trillion trillion dollar coach yeah um and it it hit me it was actually

3:19really cool I had been like really focusing and I felt like I got like a a really awesome prompt that was like hey

3:24just like just serve people right now like worrying about like what I was going to do next and it my answer was

3:30like hey just serve people like that’s it period that’s all I want you to do uh God meaning all I want you to do right

3:37and uh I was like all right great and then I read in the book like coaching is like one of the most ultimate ways of actually serving people and it just was

3:44like you know the Heaven’s open you know let’s let’s go and uh and it yeah from

3:51there it just it lined up and it was like it’s time and it you know there’s been parts that have not been easy you

3:57know you’re you’re always thinking like oh can I am I actually really going to help people like am I actually going to

4:02provide that space and then it’s like oh yeah yeah we’re doing it like we’re there you knoww let’s get to work and

4:08let’s go how do you start work how do you start working with people do you have a particular uh I guess what’s

4:17what’s the word particular strategy or Niche or like how do you start working with people or where do you take people

4:22from to where you know where they where they are now yeah that’s a great

4:28question again I think I think it comes back to just serving people like I I

4:33have two strategies for getting new clients do a free consult or just do a free coaching session like what whatever

4:40makes the most sense if people are like hey I think I really want to do coaching then it’s like let’s do the free consult

4:45and then let’s figure out exactly where you’re at let’s get really clear on where you want to go and then we’ll get really clear on how you’re going to get

4:52there A lot of times they’re like oh this is the problem like I this is the problem that I’m bringing in and uh

4:58quickly it’s like hey I don’t I don’t have enough money or I don’t have this or you know I don’t have the skills or

5:03no if I just change this one thing I’m going to get it and it’s like I’d say nine times out of 10 that’s usually not

5:09what it is right for me anyways we we uncover those beliefs that the mind the

5:15mind is so powerful like we our conscious mind makes up like 10 to 20%

5:20of our thoughts subconscious is like 80 to 90 right and so how much work are we

5:25doing on our subconscious mind to constantly program it to do exactly what we wanted to do not not off I wasn’t

5:33like I still most people aren’t yeah yeah yeah I still I still have you know I’m a coach I’m not far from perfect in

5:39a lot of ways and every way I think actually but uh you know and so I still have to do the work like the work is

5:45never ending and we’re always improving and always growing so yeah it’s lifelong work for sure lifelong

5:51yeah yeah so uh you know taking them I mean some people want to get a

5:58new job some people want to make more money some people want more time with

6:03their family and they don’t know how some people just constant like I’m stuck I don’t I don’t know I don’t know what I

6:09want I don’t know what to do I feel like I can’t get out I feel like I can’t do anything and it’s like hey there’s a one

6:15person that has the key to solving these problems and it’s you yeah right y you’re you’re you think it’s something

6:21else nine times out of 10 it’s usually not that thing right and so we get we get into that and hold up a mirror at

6:29times right people are always like hey I want to I want to spend more time with my family but all you’ve actually talked

6:35about in our conversation is money right it’s like hey like do you realize you’re doing that that’s that’s I mean that’s

6:40what coaching is it’s like totally asking questions pointing things out like do you realize this is the qu like

6:47this is the response that you gave and they’re like oh oh shoot okay yeah and that in those moments it’s like we got

6:54them no I’m just kid well no but it kind of I mean it kind of is like that it’s like look you it’s a little little more

6:59of the self-realization you know of like no this is actually what’s going on from

7:05a neutral more or less third party yeah right yeah and a lot of

7:10times what got you into your mess what got you into the life that you’re in the

7:16same thinking isn’t going to get you out of it so if you don’t change the the way that you’re thinking the way that you’re

7:22approaching the way that you’re trying to become something better then you’re probably gonna do a lot of the same

7:28stuff I mean what’s cool is people like I work with high high Achievers High performers people that

7:34are I mean they’re putting their shoulder to the wheel and they’re just going and they’re doing a lot of really great things

7:39and but yeah the challenge is they’re like hey I’m doing I’m doing good like look

7:46at all this stuff and it’s like but you don’t feel like you’re worth anything

7:51like in personally it’s like you know I think uh you know a lot of millionaires

7:56right that are miserable you sell your company like I can’t remember the stat but people who s their company almost

8:04always experience a pretty intense depression after and you’re like this is the peak this is like I made it millions

8:11of dollars everyone’s like money you know like boom success and then it’s like crap what who am I right what does

8:19that mean so what do you feel like are those the questions you ask to bring that out of

8:26people that’s a great question one of my favorite questions is like if I called

8:31you up I’ve I’ve borrowed this I mean I’m sure every bit of knowledge is borrowed from somebody the most recent

8:37person I can think of that I brought her from is like Rich Litman a super awesome coach but it’s like hey if I called you up

8:43three years from now and you said holy crap Craig like he he doesn’t say crap

8:49but like you know holy crap like everything is like going amazing what what would that be 3 years from now like

8:55paint that picture and actually feel it yeah you know you know cuz like if I asked you that right now it’s like

9:01you’re probably thinking of a few things but then some people are like oh yeah I got it down like this and and then other

9:07people are like I have no idea you know so like that’s a really good one it brings out like oh crap what do I really

9:12want like where am I going and then you start asking questions about like hey this is what you’re saying you want you

9:19know people like oh I want to spend more time with my family and it’s like well you just took on this other

9:24responsibility that’s going to add 10 more hours a week to your work guess where that 10 hours is coming from it’s coming from your fan you know

9:32so or you know no sleep or you know something else that those 10 hours got

9:38to come somewhere you know we all have the same amount of time so it’s just one way I like to put is like just making

9:43sure their heart and their mind are aligned because so often our mind’s like we got to make money we got to make

9:49money to survive like Craig we got to we got to survive here MH we got to we got to do that my heart’s like dude we’re

9:56going to make money but what’s most important my family my friends the relationships people you

10:03know doing the things that I love to do right totally what do you think are the the

10:09steps then from recognizing like what you know where where you’re at then

10:15getting unstuck right so you’re you recognize where you’re at but how do you then put that into practice Yeah

10:22so this is a good thing I think if if we weren’t having the conversation right I would tell people like write down what

10:29it is is that you want then write down what are all those fears like what do you think the limiting beliefs are that

10:37are holding you back from doing it I don’t have enough money or I don’t I I can never do that I don’t have the

10:42skills I don’t have all this but when you start making that list and you start going down again we I kind of bring it

10:47out when we’re having the conversation but if you’re not like you can do it right now like boom just start writing it down and then you just look at it and

10:54you’re like huh you’re taking you’re taking the subconscious thoughts out of your mind you’re putting it onto paper

11:00and then you’re like what what the heck like no like this isn’t me you know like why would I

11:06why would I be afraid of this why would I why would I not do something because of this you know or some people are like

11:12oh yeah that’s way too much like I’m not going to you know and it’s like you know those are the really fun ones but like most of them are like that’s that’s

11:18super weird just doing that is it’s just becoming a little more self-aware oh yeah yeah and uh you know usually like

11:27we try on a few different things right some people are like uh yesterday like I

11:32don’t feel like I was talking with a um a friend we we we did a free coaching session with him and he was like yeah I

11:40I don’t feel like I’m anything if I’m not achieving and I’m like well what happens if you stop being able to

11:47achieve right let’s say you’re in sales and let’s say you can’t you know make

11:53sales for the next two months like you get into a terrible accident your family something terrible happens we don’t want

11:59that happen but like what if does that mean for the next two months like you are nothing that you are worthless like

12:05is that where your worth your worth is coming from that like homie like it doesn’t need to come from that like I

12:12don’t want to say it shouldn’t because should a stupid word but like there’s a more powerful place to come from like

12:18your worth is not dependent upon anything else right and so those are those are the really fun ones when you

12:25uncover these these deep-seated limiting beliefs that once you once you recognize it once you

12:31pull it out once you say it once you acknow acknowledge and recognize it it

12:37has a lot less power in your life and then once you start reprogramming it and

12:42then once you start putting it into the Frameworks of you know the way that you know a belief framework beliefs thoughts

12:49actions results that’s a short shorter one right once you put it in there then it’s like oh that has a lot less power

12:55now and now you start giving power to the most important thoughts that are actually going to dictate what you do so

13:03I mean that’s that’s essentially like all I do yeah not every I mean that’s this the more or less the central like I

13:10guess tenant of coaching right yeah what are some other like limiting beliefs that you’ve seen um in other people or

13:18the clients that you coach yeah yeah I I’m not

13:25enough like it doesn’t matter I’m I’m chasing it’s like I’ll never be enough

13:31is my belief so then like how does that show up like it shows up in your thoughts like I’m I constantly have to

13:37try to prove that I’m enough shows up in your actions and you’re like I I’m just I got to do like I got to be high

13:43achieving so that’s like a that’s how you see like people who are high Achievers who are miserable yeah is

13:48because they’re constantly trying to prove like that’s a upside to a terrible belief right yeah but then your result

13:56you don’t ever acknowledge the result that is I did something awesome and I I it should it should point back to me

14:02being enough but then I have this belief that says I’m never enough and so it’s not in alignment right and so totally

14:08you know I’m never enough um I’m just I’m I’m just going to

14:13fail uh you know I’m not I’m not worthy of this I’m not worthy of blank

14:20um yeah I mean a failure is a big one too failure enough like I would say those are probably the biggest ones that

14:27stem all the way down right um and cause a lot of I mean Cascade of

14:32issues yeah yeah I mean like for me is is I don’t feel worthy of Love or

14:38success and it’s like Craig what are you thinking you know like and and sometimes

14:44I’m not thinking and that’s the thing that’s that’s where it goes into the subconscious cuz I’m like I I have a

14:49beautiful wife I have a beautiful three girls like I have so much right why

14:56would I not feel like I’m worthy of their love or of success or and it shows up when you go out and go into a job

15:03interview and you’re like oh man I if I’m not achieving like I’m nothing so right now I’m nothing walking into a job

15:09interview yeah about to try to get a job like is that a powerful Place yeah is that a power no it’s not a powerful

15:15place to come from it’s like you know a good question I ask a lot is like is that useful or or is that true right

15:22that starts that starts a lot yeah cuz sometimes it can be useful but it might

15:28not be the most most most powerful place to come from so then it’s a simple tweak right yeah what do you feel like is the

15:35most powerful place to come from is it is a gratitude is it like where where

15:40where is the most powerful place to come from then to switch that mindset yeah I think I think some people

15:47I think it can depend on the person just based they might have really strong beliefs in a lot of other areas they

15:53might be awesome at recognizing what they’re that they’re grateful for everything yeah they might have amazing

15:59faith in themselves they might have amazing faith in a higher power which is the ultimate super like it is like your

16:06spirituality your belief in a higher power I think is the most powerful place to come from um but then aside from that

16:14is just like what like who are you and

16:20who you are can never be taken away no matter what like going back to like Victor Frankle right yeah going back to

16:27man search for meaning yeah he’s in an he’s seen people get killed left and

16:33right his family a lot of them his his wife his kids and he came out of that

16:40more powerful than ever before and Powerful can mean a lot of things to a lot of people and I I I leave it

16:46open-ended I think there’s power in leaving it open-ended for people like but but one of the main things is you

16:51can thrive in any circumstance in any condition in any situation doesn’t mean

16:56it’s going to always feel awesome you know we’re not avoiding grief we’re not avoiding you know suffering although I

17:04mean that’s a that’s a loaded one too because we try to avoid suffering as much as we can as humans um but you know

17:11the yeah the power like I think for some people it can it needs to be different at different times too right some people

17:17like need to be more grateful some people need to be and some people can come from a more powerful place if

17:24they’re if they’re expressing more gratitude right is what I should have said should I just

17:30shouldn’t well it’s it’s human nature man it’s and it’s reprogramming like all those things for sure yeah absolutely

17:36where do you feel like in the clients that you’ve coached has there been any pivotal stories or moments where you

17:44feel like limiting belief led to a powerful place so that they you know had that transformation yeah yeah I mean

17:51there’s like ones that involve like you know getting huge pay raises like coming in thinking they were only going to ask

17:57for like a 20K raise raise and they ended up getting like a $775,000 raise like that’s lifechanging in that moment

18:05right maybe not lifechanging money forever but uh you know changing your business strategy from thinking you’re

18:11only going to grow by you know 10x and now it’s like hey I’m actually going to grow like 50x like whatever that means

18:18for you so a really cool one that I was um reflecting on recently was somebody

18:23who was laid off who I was able to to give him some coaching sessions and and they were they

18:30were hungry for it which is I think a huge huge Catalyst I mean I I can’t change you I’m not going like you are

18:37you are the person that changes yep um and uh and he he would like he would go

18:42on uh trips for work and like International trips seeing beautiful places and he would stay inside he would

18:50stay inside his hotel cuz he didn’t want to look like an idiot when he would go out he didn’t want to ever be

18:56embarrassed he he wanted to keep that up and you know be protected and you know

19:03two sessions that’s all it took like that’s again he’s hungry he’s ready for

19:08it and he went out and did the work and he’s like I just went country dancing now right I never I never my my wife has

19:15wanted to do that for the longest time and like that’s something like small but also that’s also huge especially for

19:22someone that have like a really big limited belief to like be country line dancing yeah yeah it’s pretty awesome

19:29yeah and uh he has a he has a beautiful voice but he doesn’t ever want to sing in church or sing in front of people so

19:35nobody knows right and now he’s he’s pushing towards that right and like

19:41yeah honestly I think all of them come down to you are you are not only okay

19:47but you are wonderful and thriving no matter what right that’s that’s where we

19:53that’s the ideal of getting people back to right getting people back to that spot cuz we let so many things life

20:00happens you know so many things attach on to us and we’re like what the freak is this you know like like why would

20:05like why do I feel you know why would I have that belief right and so yeah the coaching has been it has

20:13been eye opening it’s been beautiful just the other thing I would say is just

20:18people who message me and say like hey like I felt seen for the first time in a long time

20:25and like that that’s that’s like my new goal like that’s my new Focus yeah is to

20:30just see people right cuz so many people it’s easy with social media to feel

20:36unseen to feel unseen yep right to feel like you’re not significant and I mean if you can if you

20:43can see like one person a day like you can see 365 people a year right yep I

20:49mean that’s huge yeah no totally and I think social media also too gives us

20:54this uh more or less perfect for facade right that we all kind of Judge each other off

21:01of and it’s always you know tulips and daisies and grass screener on the other

21:07side kind of thing right and it’s not always like that for everybody where

21:12like for for you in particular where where has been some moments where you really had to you know dig deep and make

21:19that change to kind of put yourself on a better [Music] path yeah I mean I think in order to

21:27start coaching like uncovering that belief was huge I I was working with my coach at the

21:33time uh just uncovering what what does it mean to be why am I why am I living

21:40with with this belief that is just it does nothing for me right and you know I mean a lot

21:49of them have have been moments where you’re you feel like you’re in like that pit you feel like you’re you know

21:55there’s no Lifeline there’s no rope coming down to grab on to and no ladder and you know I think the cat you know we

22:01talked about the Catalyst before of getting laid off like I remember I was uh it was like

22:07Halloween I got laid off the beginning of October 2020 and my wife had a really bad

22:14pregnancy she’s on bed rest sweet little she’s rough man she just she can’t talk or she like throws up like bad and uh so

22:22me and the two kiddos we we went to a little Halloween party together and I remember this moment like like it was

22:30yesterday um my kids were inside and I was taking food out to the car and I

22:35like looked up at the sky and it was like it was beautiful it was a beautiful

22:40October night clear I think there was a beautiful sunset but I just felt in that

22:46moment that I had there was no hope that I was never going to be okay ever

22:52again and I’m okay you know yeah like

22:59I I had some amazing experiences after that where I felt seen by so many

23:05amazing people but just like working through that like like what do you do when you go home from that you know for sure it’s

23:12like you go you go numb out a little bit you know you go watch a show or you go turn on a video game or you put the kids

23:18to bed and just go to sleep or whatever it is right like um but working through those moments

23:25like stuff still pops up all the time right even now that I feel like I have

23:31that belief like I am I’m worthy of all the love and success in this world like I

23:37can create I am I was born to create love with other people and and show them and

23:43help them to be seen right and so stuff pops up where it’s like hey hey Craig

23:48remember remember this old thought that uh that you used to have this old belief and it’s like I don’t then like an hour

23:55goes by and I maybe have sat with it for an hour and I’m like okay we know we

24:00know what this is we’re we’re past this we’re past this done make that make that shift right it’s it’s over and uh that I

24:08mean it’s it’s like the work we talked about it’s it’s never ending like it you have to choose every single day

24:14sometimes even in every minute to choose to think and believe and be who you want

24:20to be right totally no it’s a it’s a daily it’s a daily choice and we’re all

24:25we’re all human and we all we all make mistakes we also you know it’s one of

24:32those things that you know practice leads to confidence right and so practicing those things like rewiring

24:39you know your thoughts and how you think and your actions that all leads to the

24:45you know more confidence and less and less limiting belief right yeah yeah I

24:51mean and some people have one coaching session with me and they are they are off they are like

24:59new people right and that’s not a testament to me that’s a testament to like to them and providing that space

25:05that container for them to be able to come in and they just get one sometimes it’s just one Insight one aha one little

25:13like huh right like one little thing that’s all that they need to just go out and and rock it and like rock it and you

25:22know I remember that happened with with one of my friends I who reached out to me for a coaching session and he got

25:28laid off off like two weeks later and I was like hey how uh how are you doing he’s like amazing like I am like it

25:36didn’t it came out of came out of nowhere yeah but I’m rocking it and I

25:42feel like I’m more aligned than I’ve ever been and it’s like those this is like oh I just love those success

25:48stories like it’s yeah it’s beautiful no attitude’s everything and it it’s the only thing you can control at the end of

25:56the day right like there’s so many other things outside of our control that we can’t control oh that so let’s control

26:04what we can control you know a lot of my clients are business owners and execs are higher up and managing people and

26:11teams and they they I think they overestimate what they can control often

26:17yes and it leads to a lot of it leads to burn out so quick it leads to spending

26:22hours and hours with stuff that you have no control over and it’s like once you

26:27get those hours back then it’s like hey I’m not I’m working the same amount or I’m working less now and getting more

26:33done because I’m not worrying about things that I can’t control I’m not wor like I can’t you know I was listening to

26:41I can’t remember the name of Arnold Cher’s new book but like he he went in for like like a normal little

26:47orthoscopic treatment in his heart and they had to crack him open like they

26:52they nicked something had to crack him open do a full open heart surgery right there on his heart and it changed you

26:58know from being like 3 Days To being like a month and a half recovery and uh

27:03he can’t control that like you can’t control stuff like that happen you he he had like one minute where he was like

27:09son of a you know and then he’s like NOP I’m switching and he he got very clear

27:14on what he can do and that that is like that is power like that is a strong mind

27:22that is a powerful place to come from when you give away everything you can’t control right and you focus on the

27:28inputs the best are like sales people right who are like again they’re high

27:34performing they’re high achieving you’re getting paid like your pay is attached to it y performance pay is a lot of

27:40communication yeah yeah and and they’re like yeah I I you can’t control making a

27:47sale what can you control you can control the dials you make you can control the reach outs on LinkedIn you

27:54can control the hours you spend prospecting and and you know researching your client or potential clients but you can’t

28:01control if they make the sale you can set it up perfectly you can make that you know go over your process you can

28:06only control the inputs you can’t control the outcomes and if you that’s

28:12why attaching outcomes and achievement to your identity to who you are super

28:18hard it it’s super hard right you’re a business owner especially when you get detached from those things yeah yeah

28:24when something happens that’s out of your control and detaches you you from the

28:29outcomes and you’ve attached those two things together it’s like identity crisis time you know yeah yeah all the

28:36time and that’s why it’s like you know how do how how do you come from a like what’s the powerful place to come from

28:43it’s like check your identity like who are you and what are things that can

28:50never be taken away from you those are the most powerful places to come from you know I I am a Son of God I am a a

28:58father and a husband and I love people right and I try to see people and serve

29:05and I can always influence that people don’t have to love me back right I can’t

29:11control yeah their choice right um those are things that that’ll never be taken away even if you know my family pray

29:20that it never happens that they’re just like poof you know gone like I I would still be their father I would still

29:26be her husband right I might remarry right like I told her to Remar too so we’re on the same we’re on the same page

29:32there you know like I’m like just two months go for it you know she’s like no I’m not GNA do that but I like just

29:39marry rich just just go just go for it go for it no but aesome you can’t you

29:45can’t control you that that’s a huge thing yeah getting focused on that that that causes that misalignment between

29:52your mind and your heart all the time I think is I think I can control things that I can’t or I want want to like will

29:58it into existence and then you work 80 hours a week and then you do things that

30:05you don’t want to do but you do because you’re trying to like make this happen you know and

30:10so yeah no totally what advice would you give somebody that is like you know more

30:15or less stuck maybe looking for a mentor looking for a coach what advice would

30:20you give that person yeah this is uh this is an

30:26interesting topic because my wife sent me a a Facebook post yesterday where everyone was like bashing coaching

30:34hardcore like coach coing Coes and and you see stuff in the news around here in

30:40Utah of some people who were coaches that led people far far astray right y

30:47um I think it comes down to like hey what what are your values what are the Frameworks that you

30:53typically operate in like asking those questions um those those are those are

30:58big questions like who who are you who are you you know I don’t want to has to be a better phrase than who are you

31:04getting into bed with there has to be a better phrase than that for us no but I think I understand what you’re talking

31:10about yeah it’s like when you get into business with somebody like um oh yeah just some random dude like or

31:16dudette like let’s go for it let’s go make this happen it’s like well hey do we do we value the same thing do we want

31:23the same thing do we are we know how we’re going to get there and are those two things like like completely

31:28misaligned yeah uh most coaches I think will or or mentors even will will give

31:35you I mean I I love a good Mentor like mentors are amazing um there’s also

31:41something about investing in yourself like a mentor you’re going to get free

31:46advice most of the time and it’s they’re great and I love them and utilize everything like utilize every tool

31:52possible Right but there’s something about when you invest in yourself that that changes that changes it like one

31:59you have to believe in yourself enough to invest in yourself totally and two you’ve invested money you’ve invested

32:05time and now you’re going to show up in a lot in a much different way it’s like when my parents gave me a car in high

32:11school like I did not value it the way that I value our cars now yeah because you purchased it cuz I freaking

32:17purchased it and it’s like uh yeah so but yeah see the Frameworks that they

32:23use see the beliefs talk to their talk to their other um clients

32:28talk to you know I I’m I’m an open book I’m super transparent like come you you see what it is like see what it is you

32:35can look at their content you can look at the stuff they typically do if is it a lot of hush hush you know if it’s a

32:40lot of hush hush then I’m like huh I don’t know I don’t know if that’s for me but that might be for you um just

32:46evaluate evaluate those things and I I think a free coaching session is always a really easy way of like hey this is

32:52this is exactly what we would do you know and and you get to you get to test drive it right it’s like how do you go buy a car test drive you do research on

32:59it you check everything else you check the price you check it all get the full picture and then you make a decision

33:04that’s best for you you know no totally and how like how do people come and find

33:09you is the most common on LinkedIn or where do people find you yeah just just write me a letter I’m just kidding yeah

33:15write you a snail mail letter uh my address is no uh yeah LinkedIn I’m that’s where I spend a lot

33:22of my time as on LinkedIn um yeah that’s probably the best LinkedIn and then and

33:28I have a link to a free consult there that I’m I’m pretty open game right it’s

33:33I love people I love talking I love serving so it’s very rare that I don’t respond in kind to to people reaching

33:39out um and you’re awesome on LinkedIn I always enjoyed to following your content and you’re always so engaging in

33:46comments and stuff too which I think it that that end of itself is a lost art nowadays so yeah that’s like that’s my

33:53number one advice for people looking for jobs is like don’t post content if you’re looking for job like go comment

33:59on people’s stuff and give value add value and and be my the worst thing ever

34:05is when you meet somebody on LinkedIn and then they’re like completely different in real life like they’re not

34:11as funny as they as they were on LinkedIn you’re like what is going on or they’re like a lot meaner and you’re like dude you you you’re so sweet on

34:18LinkedIn and it’s like just be authentic you know just be just be yourself just be yourself you know and also be

34:24specific I think a lot of people get um get in their own head whether it’s

34:29complaining that they got laid off or asking not being like being very generic

34:34about what they’re asking for like you got to be specific if you want help you got to be specific about what you want

34:41help for or what you where you want to be right because that’s the only way you’re going to get there yeah it’s like

34:47if if I was like hey hey Dan how can I help you you’re like uh uh thank you for

34:52giving me work to do right like be like hey Dan could I introduce you to like

34:57like these two people who own these two businesses that are looking for you know marketing and adverti whatever help

35:03right like boom like that’s a very clear thing because then you’re like yeah I got this let me do it so that’s my

35:09that’s my advice to people who are like who don’t like know how to approach when you do get laid off like hey how can I

35:15how can I help you stop asking that question like say can I do this this or

35:20this would that be helpful and if not is there something more helpful right yeah totally or I uh we I interviewed Logan m

35:28you made know Logan or met Logan and he surprised me the first time I met him in person it surprised me I don’t probably

35:35didn’t surprise anyone else that know slogan but he he asked me he was like Dan so nice to finally meet you like

35:41what’s your biggest problem right now you know just like what’s your biggest problem right now and like how how could

35:47I help right yeah um and just some of those reframes are really awesome especially when dealing with layoff when

35:54dealing with whatever like get specific cuz it’s you’re going to go a lot farther you know and he didn’t try to

36:00solve it with motivosity right he you know what I mean like hey what’s your biggest problem let me spin it let me

36:05spin it to to benefit me no those are those are people that I just that make

36:10you feel so great to be around that that just give and don’t have any attachment to anything in return you know yeah no

36:17100% well Craig I super appreciate the time today thank you so much for being on and telling your story a little bit

36:24and giving giving some advice on like how to get one unstuck for sure how to

36:30you know really work on your mindset and hopefully set yourself up to be where you want to be um again linkedin’s the

36:37best place to find you anywhere else uh my house not yeah link put your

36:43house in snow mail yeah yeah Linkin come come engage come tell me your story come

36:49let me know how I can help and serve and just let’s have a great conversation you know awesome well thanks Craig

36:55appreciate it thank you Dan it’s been a blast good that’s a r thanks guys

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